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Turtles and Tortoises: 5 You Should Never Keep as Pets

FI WITH ALL SNAPPERSo as not to alienate the many hardcore, dedicated turtle keepers among my readers, I’ll start off by qualifying the title. I know people who do quite well with 4 of the 5 species discussed in this article. But in addition to being very well-experienced, these folks have both the financial means and space to meet the challenges posed by these unique creatures. People who, for example, keep 2,000+ individual turtles in good health and can devote entire floors of commercial warehouses or 80 privately-owned ponds to their hobby (or “obsession”, as some may say!). Of course, the turtles covered here can be kept by those of more modest means, but they are, in general, not suitable for most private collections. Please be sure to post your own thoughts and experiences concerning these and similar species below, thanks.

 

To be honest, there’s no denying the allure of large, interesting turtles, and I’ve been most fortunate in having had the chance to indulge my passion for them. My own experiences with the turtles listed below came via jobs with animal importers in NYC decades ago, and later through a career at the Bronx and Staten Island Zoos. Thanks in part to a “turtle-centric” Bronx Zoo curator, the opening of a 77,000 gallon Asian river exhibit allowed me to work with large turtles on a grand scale. Another unique opportunity came in 1997, with the seizure of nearly 10,000 turtles of several species in Guangzhou, China. Many were sent to the USA, where we helped to place them in private and public collections (please see the article linked below).

 

Fly River Turtle

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Fly River Turtle (Carettochelys insculpta)

Unless you are another Fly River Turtle, it’s hard not to like these engaging creatures (they are notoriously aggressive towards one another). Equipped with a pig’s nose, sea turtle-like flippers and an abiding curiosity, they are among the most unique turtles one can imagine. They are also very responsive…those I cared for would swim about my legs when I entered their exhibit, soliciting food and rubbing against me. One in the Bronx Zoo’s collection is now at least 70 years of age.

 

Unfortunately, despite being protected within their native range, Fly River Turtle hatchlings are still being collected and sold. They are among the most active of the world’s turtles, and even small ones require far more room than most people can provide. Adults may top 40 lbs. in weight, and are nearly impossible to accommodate at home. They rarely stop swimming, and my group seemed crowded even in a 77,000 gallon exhibit. And despite all that space, battles were a daily occurrence – how they managed to breed I’ll never know (literally, since the eggs incubated unseen within the exhibit!). A susceptibility to fungal and bacterial infections, often centered on the carapace, adds to the difficulties involved in keeping these unusual turtles.

 

Nile Softshells

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Nile Softshell Turtle (Trionx triunguis)

Although certain populations are in decline, this huge aquatic turtle has a large range, and seems to be doing well in some areas. Youngsters occasionally appear in the trade, where they are quickly snapped-up despite steep price tags.

 

All softshells are active and interesting, but the Nile may reach 4 feet in length – far too large for all but an outdoor pond in the appropriately-warm region.

 

They can be quite aggressive as well. I’ll never forget a sub-adult kept by a friend. When approached, it would paddle out to the rim of its pool and seemingly “patrol” the area, with the head held high above the surface. Further advances were met with a lightning-fast strike.

 

Spurred Tortoise

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African Spurred Tortoise (Geochelone sulcata)

This is the most commonly-kept of the giant Chelonians. They differ from the others covered here in that captive born hatchlings are readily and inexpensively available. They also grow much faster – few novices can imagine that their new palm-sized pet may reach 60 pounds in weight within 5 years, and eventually top 200 pounds. Proper accommodations necessitate an outdoor enclosure in a dry, warm locale. A ½ acre exhibit proved too small for a pair of 80 pounders under my care, and they pushed through or burrowed under a surprising array of barriers.

 

African Spurred Tortoises are extremely responsive to people, being described as “dog-like” by many. But despite an innate hardiness, they have very specific dietary needs which are misunderstood by many sellers and new owners. And as you can see from the terrier-tortoise story in the article linked below, they are also very tough customers.

 

Malayan Snail-Eating Turtle (Malayemys subtrijuga)

A delicate constitution rather than large size leads me to recommend against keeping this 6 inch-long Southeast Asian beauty. Fortunately, they now rarely if ever appear in the US trade, but untold numbers are still collected for Asian food markets.

 

The Malayan Snail-Eating Turtle first caught my eye decades ago, when it sometimes showed up, unexpected and un-named, mixed in with other imports. I read what little information I could find, and did manage to induce several to feed upon the 2-3 aquatic snail species that I collected and bred for them. However, then as now, this was not enough to sustain them long term.

 

Field studies have revealed that youngsters feed largely upon two snail species. Some adults add mussels, insects, fish and other items to the diet, but even these fail to thrive in zoos or private collections. I’ve spoken with people who have kept them in seemingly perfect situations, but all wind up frustrated. I continue to look for clues to their proper husbandry…please post below if you have any insights.

 

Alligator snapping turtle

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Alligator Snapping Turtle (Macroclemmys temminckii)

The old fellow I’m posing with in this article’s first photo tips the scales at 206 pounds – is there any reason to discuss why this species might not be the best choice for most folks!? Looking more dinosaur-like than even the Common Snapping Turtle, Alligator Snapper hatchlings are produced by a few private breeders. Small and sedentary, and sporting their famous “fishing lure”, it easy to see why they are so hard to resist (I feel the same about Common Snappers, and hatch eggs each year despite first doing so over 50 years ago!).

 

As this largest of the Western Hemisphere’s aquatic turtles is in dire straits in the wild, captive breeding efforts are needed – but this majestic beast is best left to those with private ponds surrounded by nesting beaches.

 

 

Further Reading

Are You Ready for an African Spurred Tortoise?

Working with the World’s Largest Freshwater Turtles

 

 

5 comments

  1. avatar

    This si a very interesting list of turtles to “avoid” unless you have proper environments.

    I have two unrelated questions I would appreciate your thoughts on.

    1. I have been using ZooMed UVB light bulbs for my box turtle. (She also goes out during the day when it is warm, but I have to bring her in at night because of raccoons and other night predators.)I do change the bulb every year as recommneded. Is this the best option to provide UVB for my box turlte? How can you tell if the bulb really needs to be changed? Are the UVB dectection devices effective and worth the cost? What other information should I consider regarding UVB bulbs? I know not to block UVB light with screens, plastic or glass. And what sources are available to people in India, China and South America for reliable UVB bulbs? (Sometimes we get readers from these areas.) What is a mercury vapor bulb? Does it deliver UVB rays?

    2. How are the wild populations of turtles and other reptiles faring in this terribly cold winter? Will we see large die offs, or are these animals safe in their hibernation places?

    Thanks for your thoughts. Best wishes.

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      Hello Karen,

      Thanks for the kind words.

      Zoo Med’s recommendations re bulb life can be relied upon, company is very dependable. A very short exposure to natural sunlight even on an overcast day usually supplies infinitely more UVB than any bulb, but glass and plastic filters out UVB. Distance from bulb is important…standard UVB bulbs (original style) are most effective at 6-12 inches, newer florescent models from Z Med and others may broadcast further. Mercury vapor also have a greater effective distance. See here for mercury vapor. Most reputable manufacturer’s include distance info but let me know if you need more info.

      ThatPetPlace ships overseas, but costs would be a factor. I haven’t looked into availability on other continents, but have learned in passing, from readers, that UVB bulbs are available locally in parts of China, Europe and elsewhere.

      There are always losses during hibernation during any year (depressed immune system, predation; temperature is less of a factor, as millions of years of evolution have provided an ample safety net. Temp or season length becomes more critical, perhaps, at the extremes of a species’ range (i.e. wood frogs within Arctic Circle) , where species are expanding range, and for feral populations in non-native regions…i.e. several years ago there were huge die-offs of introduced green iguanas, Burmese pythons, many tropical fishes in Florida. Best regards, Frank

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    Hello, interesting article. You mention field studies reffering to Malayemys subtrijuga. Could you give me further information in this case? (See my mail address above)

    • avatar

      Hello,

      Thanks for the kind words. The diet info is from a phD dissertation..it is available as a file online..search under malayemys diet snails on Google (it is 173 pages, and I do not have it downloaded); first reference will be to a PDF of the article; I’ve come across other articles in Herpetologica, Copeia etc. over the years, but do not have a list at hand, unfortunately. Best, Frank

  3. avatar

    Owner of a male Hermann Tortoise. Owned him for 6 years but believe he is lonely. He gets lots of love, attention and is well cared for. I am hoping someone has a Hermann tortoise that they need a home for because I would like to adopt so my tortoise has a companion.

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Being born with a deep interest in animals might seem unfortunate for a native Bronxite , but my family encouraged my interest and the menagerie that sprung from it. Jobs with pet stores and importers had me caring for a fantastic assortment of reptiles and amphibians. After a detour as a lawyer, I was hired as a Bronx Zoo animal keeper and was soon caring for gharials, goliath frogs, king cobras and everything in-between. Research has taken me in pursuit of anacondas, Orinoco crocodiles and other animals in locales ranging from Venezuela’s llanos to Tortuguero’s beaches. Now, after 20+ years with the Bronx Zoo, I am a consultant for several zoos and museums. I have spent time in Japan, and often exchange ideas with zoologists there. I have written books on salamanders, geckos and other “herps”, discussed reptile-keeping on television and presented papers at conferences. A Master’s Degree in biology has led to teaching opportunities. My work puts me in contact with thousands of hobbyists keeping an array of pets. Without fail, I have learned much from them and hope, dear readers, that you will be generous in sharing your thoughts on this blog and web site. For a complete biography of my experience click here.
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