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	<title>Comments on: Breeding the Tropical Girdled Lizard (Forest Armadillo Lizard) &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: findiviglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>findiviglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Ted

Thanks for the feedback and kind words.  Unfortunately., difficult to diagnose w/o vet, esp. x-rays to check for blockage.  Early deaths are common in the wild – developmental abnormalities and such, but captives often hold on longer due to reliable food source, etc.  It’s also common for one to be out-competed for food and basking opportunities; basking op or lack there-of is easy to miss, and likely behind quite a few unexplained losses.  Separating the weaker one is the best way to rule this out, but of course expensive and so on; perhaps a tank divider?

UVA and B can be used together; some mercury and other bulbs emit both, but separate bulbs are fine.  

Please let me know if you need any further information.  Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
 
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ted</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback and kind words.  Unfortunately., difficult to diagnose w/o vet, esp. x-rays to check for blockage.  Early deaths are common in the wild – developmental abnormalities and such, but captives often hold on longer due to reliable food source, etc.  It’s also common for one to be out-competed for food and basking opportunities; basking op or lack there-of is easy to miss, and likely behind quite a few unexplained losses.  Separating the weaker one is the best way to rule this out, but of course expensive and so on; perhaps a tank divider?</p>
<p>UVA and B can be used together; some mercury and other bulbs emit both, but separate bulbs are fine.  </p>
<p>Please let me know if you need any further information.  Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.</p>
<p>Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Starkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Starkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello
 
 All the info you have given me is great the babies seem to be doing well but we are worried about one. It doesn&#039;t seem to have as much pep as before and is not eating. we have everything set like you suggested and were wondering if you had any other suggestions, Also can you tell me can having an UVB and an UVA light on at the same time wash each other out</description>
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<p> All the info you have given me is great the babies seem to be doing well but we are worried about one. It doesn&#8217;t seem to have as much pep as before and is not eating. we have everything set like you suggested and were wondering if you had any other suggestions, Also can you tell me can having an UVB and an UVA light on at the same time wash each other out</p>
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		<title>By: findiviglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>findiviglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Ted

Thanks for the feedback.  The amount sounds fine…no need to fine tune too much as lizards seem adjust their growth and metabolism to food availability, within reason.  Use small crickets and skip a day or 2 each week-10 days.  UVB, if florescent, should be within 6-12 inches of the lizards…if they are not able to get that in the tank, it may be useful to move them to a shallow container for a few hours every so often

Canned insects are fine to use and can be a useful source of dietary variety.  Various feeders are often available via interne dealers…check Kingsnake.com, etc. for calciworms, butterworms, sowbugs and so on; they will grow and seem to thrive for quite awhile on crickets alone, but will suffer nutritional deficiencies in time.

Much of the info in &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/2011/09/02/chameleon-diets-the-best-foods-for-pet-chameleons/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article on Chameleon diets&lt;/a&gt; is applicable to your lizards.

Please let me know if you need any further information.  Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
 
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ted</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.  The amount sounds fine…no need to fine tune too much as lizards seem adjust their growth and metabolism to food availability, within reason.  Use small crickets and skip a day or 2 each week-10 days.  UVB, if florescent, should be within 6-12 inches of the lizards…if they are not able to get that in the tank, it may be useful to move them to a shallow container for a few hours every so often</p>
<p>Canned insects are fine to use and can be a useful source of dietary variety.  Various feeders are often available via interne dealers…check Kingsnake.com, etc. for calciworms, butterworms, sowbugs and so on; they will grow and seem to thrive for quite awhile on crickets alone, but will suffer nutritional deficiencies in time.</p>
<p>Much of the info in <a href="http://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/2011/09/02/chameleon-diets-the-best-foods-for-pet-chameleons/" rel="nofollow">this article on Chameleon diets</a> is applicable to your lizards.</p>
<p>Please let me know if you need any further information.  Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.</p>
<p>Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</p>
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		<title>By: findiviglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>findiviglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Sam

Thanks for your interest.  Very interesting lizards; they’ve recently been re-classified and placed in the genus Smaug, along with typical Sungazers…&lt;a href=&quot;http://reptile-database.reptarium.cz/species?genus=Smaug&amp;species=mossambicus&amp;search_param=%28%28taxon%3D%27Cordylidae%27%29%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;please see here for more info.&lt;/a&gt;

Unfortunately, there’s not much available in the way of husbandry info that has worked long term.  I think increasing dietary variety would be a good idea.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/2011/09/02/chameleon-diets-the-best-foods-for-pet-chameleons/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This article &lt;/a&gt;was written re Chameleon Diets by has some useful information concerning insectivorous lizards in general.  Since they are eating from tongs, you can also use canned grasshoppers, silkworms etc. to add variety to the diet.

I would use a Vitamin/mineral supplement 2-3 times weekly in addition to calcium.

I’ll keep mu eyes open for new info...

Please let me know if you need any further information.  Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
 
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sam</p>
<p>Thanks for your interest.  Very interesting lizards; they’ve recently been re-classified and placed in the genus Smaug, along with typical Sungazers…<a href="http://reptile-database.reptarium.cz/species?genus=Smaug&amp;species=mossambicus&amp;search_param=%28%28taxon%3D%27Cordylidae%27%29%29" rel="nofollow">please see here for more info.</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, there’s not much available in the way of husbandry info that has worked long term.  I think increasing dietary variety would be a good idea.  <a href="http://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/2011/09/02/chameleon-diets-the-best-foods-for-pet-chameleons/" rel="nofollow">This article </a>was written re Chameleon Diets by has some useful information concerning insectivorous lizards in general.  Since they are eating from tongs, you can also use canned grasshoppers, silkworms etc. to add variety to the diet.</p>
<p>I would use a Vitamin/mineral supplement 2-3 times weekly in addition to calcium.</p>
<p>I’ll keep mu eyes open for new info&#8230;</p>
<p>Please let me know if you need any further information.  Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.</p>
<p>Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello

Thank you for all your help last time I inquired. I do hope that I can obtain a breeding pair of C. Tropidosternum in the near future but a couple of months ago I got two male C. Mossambicus or Gorangosa Girdled Lizard. I have read a couple of post about them but nothing very helpful. For the past couple months I believe they have been doing good. Both males or in a 55 gl. They are regularly eating crickets and mealworms dusted with calcium. Although they are a very shy species, both eat from my tongs. I hope to get two females soon so I can breed them. Do you know anything about these species and there husbandry. I would greatly appreciate your advice. 

Thank you 

Sam</description>
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<p>Thank you for all your help last time I inquired. I do hope that I can obtain a breeding pair of C. Tropidosternum in the near future but a couple of months ago I got two male C. Mossambicus or Gorangosa Girdled Lizard. I have read a couple of post about them but nothing very helpful. For the past couple months I believe they have been doing good. Both males or in a 55 gl. They are regularly eating crickets and mealworms dusted with calcium. Although they are a very shy species, both eat from my tongs. I hope to get two females soon so I can breed them. Do you know anything about these species and there husbandry. I would greatly appreciate your advice. </p>
<p>Thank you </p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Starkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Starkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank, well babies are almost 5 weeks old, we feed them 4-5 crickets a day each, the crickets are dusted with Repti calcium on Mon, Wed and Fri. on Sunday they are dusted with Reptiveite with D3. The temp is right around 80 Degrees on the cold side of the enclosure  under the basking light I would say the the temp is around 90 but not sure we do not have a temperature gauge on that side. they are also getting at least 12 hours of UVB light and we even have a Night black heat light. When we feed them we do it on a one at a time basis in an small plastic carry case so we know each one is eating. Right now there diet is cricket because I cant seem to find any of the other food supply that you told me about in any of our pet stores and if I do find something its in a can not live and I&#039;m not sure its good for them. The size of the 3 is as follows ( big boy- 3in) (kinky-2.5in) and (baby-2in) all named by my son the first and last are self explanatory Kinky got the name cause its tail is bent at the end ( not sure that will fix itself) this is also there birth order. I hope this helps and I appreciate all the info your giving us, our local pet stores aren&#039;t much help.

Thanks Again Ted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank, well babies are almost 5 weeks old, we feed them 4-5 crickets a day each, the crickets are dusted with Repti calcium on Mon, Wed and Fri. on Sunday they are dusted with Reptiveite with D3. The temp is right around 80 Degrees on the cold side of the enclosure  under the basking light I would say the the temp is around 90 but not sure we do not have a temperature gauge on that side. they are also getting at least 12 hours of UVB light and we even have a Night black heat light. When we feed them we do it on a one at a time basis in an small plastic carry case so we know each one is eating. Right now there diet is cricket because I cant seem to find any of the other food supply that you told me about in any of our pet stores and if I do find something its in a can not live and I&#8217;m not sure its good for them. The size of the 3 is as follows ( big boy- 3in) (kinky-2.5in) and (baby-2in) all named by my son the first and last are self explanatory Kinky got the name cause its tail is bent at the end ( not sure that will fix itself) this is also there birth order. I hope this helps and I appreciate all the info your giving us, our local pet stores aren&#8217;t much help.</p>
<p>Thanks Again Ted</p>
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		<title>By: findiviglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>findiviglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 02:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Ted

Thanks for the update and sorry for the bad news.  As for the youngsters, overfeeding is not usually a concern, unless they are not getting enough Calcium/D3.  Amounts will vary with individual animals as well as temperature, UVB exposure.  Please send some details as to that, as well as their size/age, when you can.

Please keep in mind that crickets alone, even if supplemented, are not an adequate diet.

Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ted</p>
<p>Thanks for the update and sorry for the bad news.  As for the youngsters, overfeeding is not usually a concern, unless they are not getting enough Calcium/D3.  Amounts will vary with individual animals as well as temperature, UVB exposure.  Please send some details as to that, as well as their size/age, when you can.</p>
<p>Please keep in mind that crickets alone, even if supplemented, are not an adequate diet.</p>
<p>Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Starkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Starkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank I am updating on our situation, well the babies seem to be doing well but we lost mamma were not sure what happened she was doing fine and all of a sudden she died. I would like to know how often should we be feeding the babies and how much, right now we are feeding them crickets and we are not sure if these little guys could overeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank I am updating on our situation, well the babies seem to be doing well but we lost mamma were not sure what happened she was doing fine and all of a sudden she died. I would like to know how often should we be feeding the babies and how much, right now we are feeding them crickets and we are not sure if these little guys could overeat.</p>
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		<title>By: findiviglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>findiviglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Ted, Frank Indiviglio here.

Thanks for the update.  Adult crickets have powerful mouthparts and carnivorous leanings and sometimes bite debilitated herps or those that are too cool to respond; broken skin and wounds may also be attacked.  Smaller crickets are usually safe.  

Crickets quickly lose or groom-away coatings of powdered supplements, and so are best consumed quickly.  The lizards may be more likely to feed right away if you leave the area and observe from a distance.

An average humidity of 40% is fine; they seem to do fine under drier conditions as well.  The terrarium can be misted heavily as long as it dries out thoroughly thereafter.  

Please let me know if you need any further information.  Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
 
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ted, Frank Indiviglio here.</p>
<p>Thanks for the update.  Adult crickets have powerful mouthparts and carnivorous leanings and sometimes bite debilitated herps or those that are too cool to respond; broken skin and wounds may also be attacked.  Smaller crickets are usually safe.  </p>
<p>Crickets quickly lose or groom-away coatings of powdered supplements, and so are best consumed quickly.  The lizards may be more likely to feed right away if you leave the area and observe from a distance.</p>
<p>An average humidity of 40% is fine; they seem to do fine under drier conditions as well.  The terrarium can be misted heavily as long as it dries out thoroughly thereafter.  </p>
<p>Please let me know if you need any further information.  Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.</p>
<p>Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an update, Babies seem to be doing well ,we have been told not to leave our crickets in with them overnight, is this right and also what should be the humidity for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an update, Babies seem to be doing well ,we have been told not to leave our crickets in with them overnight, is this right and also what should be the humidity for them?</p>
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