My Animal Collection: How a Herpetologist Keeps American Toads, Bufo (Anaxyrus) americanus and Related Species, Part I
Hi, Frank Indiviglio here.
Today’s article is the second in a series concerning animals in my own collection. For additional information concerning this line of articles, please see My Animal Collection: How a Herpetologist Keeps Barking Treefrogs (Hyla gratiosa) and Gray Treefrogs (Hyla versicolor).
Note: the following information is also largely applicable to other toads that commonly appear in the pet trade, i.e. the Great Plains toad, B. cognatus, the Gulf Coast toad, B. valliceps, the southern toad, B. terrestris, Woodhouse’s toad, B. woodhousei and the Texas toad, B. speciosus. Fowler’s toads and the various Spadefoot toads prefer arid substrates…I’ll cover the care of both in the future.
Most North American toads in the Genus Bufo have been recently reclassified within the Genus Anaxyrus, but not all herpetologists agree on this point.
An Ideal Terrarium Pet
As with many of the animals I favor, American toads have much to offer the hobbyist but are not as popular as some of their more colorful relatives (actually, they vary greatly in color – I have run across yellow, reddish and nearly black specimens in the field).
Perhaps because they are so well- protected by virulent skin toxins, American toads are calm and confiding in captivity. They usually take on diurnal habits, and even wild caught adults will feed from the hand in short order. Pardon the stretch, but their behavior brings to mind that of the striped skunks I have kept. Skunks seem to know that they are “untouchable”, and hence are very approachable (even in the wild)…toads are much like that, at least in my mind!
They are also quite intelligent and responsive – please see my article entitled “Amphibian Learning Abilities – the Southern Toad, Bufo (Anaxyrus) terrestris and Bumblebee Mimics” for further details.
Designing the Terrarium
I currently keep 2 yearling American toads in a Tom Aquarium Jumbo PLA-House Plastic Terrarium. This terrarium’s ventilation ports assure adequate air exchange (despite favoring moist habitats, toads and other amphibians fare poorly in stagnant air) yet are small enough to prevent small feeder insects from escaping. This set-up is dismantled and cleaned weekly – the terrarium’s light weight simplifies this chore.
Substrate
The substrate pictured in the photo is R-Zilla Compressed Frog Moss. American toads prefer a drier environment than do most frogs, so I use only ½ to ¾ of the amount of water called for in the instructions when preparing the moss (the moss is packaged dry, and must be reconstituted). Hagen Exo-Terra Plume Moss and Zoo Med Terrarium Moss are also good choices for toads and other amphibians.
In this terrarium, the substrate is rinsed or spot-cleaned once mid-week and replaced weekly. As with most amphibian terrariums, I use only hot water to clean, with bleach or table salt added when something stronger is called for.
Water
The terrarium is sprayed once daily with de-chlorinated water.The toads also frequently soak in their water bowl…just bear in mind that they are poor swimmers, so provide an easily-exited container for their pool.
Terrarium Decorations
I set up the terrarium in manner that encourages easy visibility and feeding- time interactions. This is not always possible with amphibian pets, of course, as secretive species will languish and die if unable to hide. American toads take to it readily however, and so observations, feeding and cleaning are much simplified. In this terrarium the toads have become quite tame – noticing when I enter the room hopping forward in anticipation of a meal.
I provide a Zoo Med Turtle Hut or a Cork Bark Hollow as a retreat, but the toads are more often to be found on top of it, scanning the moss for insects or, it seems, watching the room in general.
Light
The PLA-House Hood Light fits right onto the terrarium’s lid, and is useful for providing additional illumination without excess heat.
In planted terrariums, a Reptisun 2.0 Florescent Bulb will provide sufficient light for plants without exposing the toads to harmful levels of UVB – most amphibians have UVB “filters” in their skin, and actively avoid the sun.
Click: My Animal Collection: How a Herpetologist Keeps American Toads, Bufo (Anaxyrus) americanus and Related Species, Part II to read the rest of this article.
Until than,
Frank
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about 5 months ago
Hi Frank,
Thanks so very very much, I sincerely appreciate your keeping an eye out for me – I found this publication and article today – from University of Copenhagen, Denmark – helps ease my mind a bit, and thought I would share it with you also and see your thoughts.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/qr04470022j7723m/
Thank you,
Kelly
about 5 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Thanks…as you can see, it’s a very complex process. Things often go wrong with captive insects and spiders unless conditions are perfect, but amphibians usually do fine.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
Hope you had a great holiday!!!!!
Question on Earl and his shedding – he has been doing it every 5 days, and sometimes I will see some hanging on his back leg etc – poor fellow, only having one back leg and all. He use to get it off better – or at least until December, I never noticed this before.
But it looks like he might have some on the tip of his toes on the front leg that is on the same side he is missing the back leg – usually I put him in his swimming pool, let him soak and then lightly use a q-tip to help remove skin he cant reach.
I was thinking about trying to help his tip toes after work today, I know I need be very gentle – the tip toes are darker than the tip toes on his other foot so fairly sure this is skin that hasnt removed – any tips or suggestions for me?
Thanks so much
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly
Thanks, best to you and yours as well.
You can use a few drops of olive oil to loosen the skin; if you still have difficulty, you might give Shed Ease a try.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
Thanks so much I didnt know they made products like this!
I also checked out the one food supplier you provided me – what is a butterworm – is it a worm, mealworm, catipillar – I have never heard of these – what the site says below is very encouraging – are these ok for toads, and are they high in chitlin or something I shouldnt feed regularly to them?
BUTTERWORMS ARE NUTRITIOUS, EASY CARE (STORE THE REFRIGERATOR, NO FEEDINGS REQUIRED!); THEY ALSO MAKE GREAT FISHING BAIT!!
Butterworms average about 3/4″ to 1″ (vary in length from 1/2″ to 1-1/4″), are similar to a caterpillar, but are fatter and smooth to touch, like Waxworms.
**The Calcium content is twice that of any other feeder insect
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Thanks for the feedback.
Butterworms are caterpillars, the larvae of a moth from Chile and elsewhere in SA. You can refrigerate or keep in wheat bran at room temp, with some apple or carrot for moisture. You can use regularly, i.e. 1-2x week; no problems have been reported, no warnings re chitin or such.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
I got both the Zilla Shed Ease and saw their Humidifying Spray Tropical Mist and got it also.
On the Shed Ease – I wasnt aware it was a bath – I have apparently traumatized him regarding baths and his shedding – he will not stay in there; I do try and block his escape – but I usually just let him leave so I dont stress him to heavily.
What do you think about the Humidifying Spray Tropical Mist – I know it is more for tropical species of toads – I dont think I would use it everyday or in his cage as they recommend since he is not tropcial, but it has many of the same ingrediants as the Shed Ease, and if I can apply it directly – it might work better for us both – of course, if you are also comfortable with my using this product (states ingrediants in order as – Aloe vera, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B3, Emollient (which I hope is glycerol but company is closed today), and then lastly water. Says it will moisturize and help reduce shedding problems.
Thanks so very much again – Happy New Year to you also,
Kelly Dorr
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Sorry, I may not have been clear. When you mentioned helping to physically remove the skin, I had in mind to use olive oil or shed ease to assist in that…a few drops put on as you worked the old skin off. I don’t think there’s any to use the misting spray on a regular basis, as it’s likely more of a physical problem…lack of other leg to assist in pushing off the skin.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
Thanks again – his skin still appears whitish and over more of his body area than before; he feeds normally – even chases his food around; but I was thinking maybe that spray – if you felt ok, might help him with what we think is dry skin – to moisten it or add moisture – then he might be able to better shed his skin – like he use to before I turned on the heat in the house – three legs and all; he use to be able to remove all his skin himself prior to my turning on the heat; I did get a humidifier and see that the house is reading at only 23 humidity level – that was a challenge – finding one that is cool mist and does not use a filter – I had one before, but the filter and the antimicrobial agent in it smelled something horrible.
I have just started using the new humidifier today – but still curious if that spray may help moisten his skin so not so dry and so that he may be able to again fully remove all of it himself.
Thanks!
Kelly Dorr
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Sorry, I’m not sure which spray you have in mind; pl send a link when you have a moment,
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
No problem – it is by Zilla too – states moreso for tropical frogs, toads, etc – ingrediants in order are Aloe vera, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B3, Emollient and water – not sure what the emollient is called Zilla last Friday but they were closed for holiday and again today also. I can even dilute this more with water and or not use everday either – whatever you feel is best.
http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/group/458/product.web
Thanks again,
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Thanks for the feedback; we don’t really know the effect of using such a spray daily, long term, or how/if it should be diluted. I would rely upon misting with water, and use shed aids during shed, or perhaps a day or so before if you continue to see a distinct shed cycle.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank
Thanks again! Sometimes he looks like he has a waxy sheen along with the white areas – is this vitamin A toxicity maybe?
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly
Thanks; I’m not aware of anything related to what you describe. In captive toads, Vit A deficiencies are usually more common than overdoses; please see this article.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
I am thinking Earl has a fungus and not dry skin – all my toads are caged separately, but treated the same regarding substrate and cleaning practices – only difference I can think of is right before this shedding started and I did buy Earl a new waterbowl = only difference in the three.
How is fungus treated?
Thank you
Kelly
about 4 months ago
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Thank you
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about 4 months ago
Hi Frank ,
In addition to the fungus treatment request above, I did just read in one of my many frog and toad books, that sometimes for frogs with fungus infections, that they found the use of chlorinated water to be helpful too – although I treat my water with remover, I did still buy water (aquatic) test strips and still test it. Glad I do this, as once the strip advised me I did forget to put the dechlorinator in one of the three jugs = but I do know that my tap water when tested reads at the lowest level of chlorine noted on the test strip, will chlorinated water perhaps treat his condition (short soaks) and maybe less risky a treatment option?
Thanks again
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly
It’s somewhat of a balancing act…many old time herp keepers mentioned chlorine, and it makes sense, but I’m not sure if actually proven. Some exposure is fine, but how much/how often is unknown; some luck had been had with refrigeration as well, for leopard frogs, but again extrapolating to toads, without a definite diagnosis by a vet, would be mainly guesswork. It would do no harm to fill water bowl with chlorinated water on alternate days, if you wish to experiment.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Thank you Frank,
Are there any fish fungal treatments that have been successfully used on toads, since they also are very sensitive to their environments – or are you saying, perhaps ok to try chlorine and if no improvement seen -locate and see a vet before trying anything else?
Thanks so much,
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly
Sorry if I wasn’t clear. A vet visit is always preferable; I thought you had mentioned that you were in touch with an experienced amphibian vet at one point…
Methylene Blue has been used with some success, but is still considered experimental.
Chlorinated water left in the bowl on alternate days will do no harm, but there are no specifics as to its value as a treatment. Again, fungal infections are not easy to diagnose, and the species present may affect drug choice.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
Talked to my vet office = my toadie tech comes in at 6pm tonight – going to see if there is a scrape/petri dish option where I can collect the specimen for them – versus my car porting this poor fellow for over an hour each way to get there and back, let alone the stress and time involved with the actual doctor visit itself.
Then if so, while I wait for culture growth and review, I will start the chlorinated water option as well – and if confirmed fungus, I hope perhaps I will be lucky enough to see profound improvement with the chlorine option treatment alone – since short term – a much less riskier option to his life.
Thought though – I squirt their dirt everday and mix it by hand, looking for stool and to also ensure the soil is moist – would it be beneficial and not harmful to them – if I used chlorinated water when doing this. Currently I do not, but thinking maybe the chlorinated water will help control bacteria, mold, fungi in the dirt – maybe a little. And it would be moist dirt not liquid theyd be in – so I think theyd have little absorption if none, in moistened chlorinated watered dirt – for the short time each day it would even be moist and in the dirt.
Challenging for sure – but they are so very much worth it all and more!
Thanks so very much again!
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly
Chlorine dissipates within 24 hrs in the open, so you can spray; no chance of build-up.
You’ll need to bring the toad in, as fecal tests will only reveal systemic infections, parasites, but not fungi that is limited to the skin. A vet would not likely advise you to scrape the area yourself.
Transport the toad in an old pillow case with damp taper towels or moss; in hard containers, they will rub along the sides in an attempt to escape.
Hope all goes well, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
I never know when/if my city will increase and or decrease the water chlorine amount, I did test it yesterday with my Tetra Aquarium 6-in1 test strips, and my chlorine level read either 1.0 to maybe 2.0 ppm-mg/L.
Hoping that is not too strong for a toad – I thought I had read that long term low exposure in toad contributes to kidney failure – which wouldnt happen in this case; but is that the only threat to Toads from chlorine?
Thanks,
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Additives vary among water authorities and in accordance with human health concerns, etc. There really are no standards re amphibians. In addition to chlorine, chloramines are normally added, along with other chemicals. All are designed to kill micro-organisms, and are absorbed through amphibs skin. Standard practice in zoos is to remove chlorine; I know from experience that the protocol we discussed can be used safely for awhile, if you wish to experiment. Best option is vet care. Keep in mind that any treatment prescribed by vet will have side effects; as with us, it’s a matter of weighing risks. Many amphibs are lost during treatment, which is why it is best to have the problem evaluated to be sure that medication is actually required.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
I had an appt with a reptile vet closer to where I live (Earl stayed home, he shed that am – and it was a meet and greet visit for me). I took photos of him and some shed skin.
He has only seen a couple frogs and not much experience with amphibs – but he does have access to an exotic pet lab and he did call and confirm that they do have enough data on American Toads to know what bacteria and levels and such are considered normal.
The expert at the lab had some good suggestions – she thought perhaps my water is too hard and that I might be seeing mineral deposits on him – per my water test strips I do have the hardest water indication they read. Perhaps possible, since he is disabled and has more difficulty than the others due to such, and perhaps why such might be an issue for him and not the others.
I did get some Aquafina purified water – only one I saw that stated they do not enhance it with additives for flavor – I just got their water report off their website and called and confirmed they do not have additives either. It tested the exact opposite of my water – softest reading on the strip and although purified, and no chlorine, I am still adding water conditioner to it.
He is still eating great, active alert – this is very perplexing. Going to try softer water for him, and I may reach point where I also use a water conditioner that has a slime coating (currently I do not) – we spoke earlier and I got the one you stated you use – Stress Coat.
I do have an appt with a different reptile vet this Wednesday, recommended by a friend with tortoises who said he also worked with the St. Louis Zoo – at this point – Id like to do a test to know what I am dealing with – if health concern or not, and then take it from there, knowing the huge risks involved.
Thanks again for everything. QUESTION for the day (in addition to any feed back on above you may have) – Worms for my toads, still hard to find – a petstore here has what they call Red Wigglers (Big Reds) and also called Angel Worms – (so many names for one worm) – are Red Wigglers ok for American Toads – I saw a posting a while back by someone on the internet who said they fed their American Toad a Red Wiggler and it died – who knows all the specifics – where it was collected, size, etc – but is the species generally ok for toads or perhaps not?
Thanks,
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
The idea re hard water is an excellent one; with few exceptions, amphibians always fare better in soft water. If you trust the company, best not to add chlor-out type products. Be sure not to use distilled water, as it leaches minerals/salts from the body.
Appetite is almost always affected quickly when there is a serious problem, so it’s a good sign that the toad is feeding.
Red wigglers are fine, used by all zoos for decades. Worm collection/farming is not strictly controlled; there are always risks with any invertebrate re parasite transmission, different species being sent, etc. Unless you know where to look and how to filter, best to avoid looking into people’s experiences with foods etc. – some good info on the net, but sorting though it is brutal, lots of nonsense, etc.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
Thanks again as always – my test strip advised no chlorine found in the aquafina, chloramines is not a separate test on my strip – not sure if they would read under the chlorine part of it. Their water analysis report indicated None Detected at or above the Min Reporting Level set by the EPA for chloramine, chlorine and chlorine dioxide – think I might still treat for the chloramine aspect or not? Sorry I dont know much about water and all these chemicals and multiple purification processes~
Also the other difference in this water other than it being the softest reading on the strip, is that it is also the exact opposite of mine for PH in that it is the strongest acidic reading and my water read the highest alkaline reading. I forgot to tell you that earlier – wish I knew more about water – but am learning about it thanks to my toadies.
I spoke to the St. Louis Zoo again today and learned they have their own water treatment operation and processes and create and use their own supply of water for their amphibians. They did suggest that I consider adding moss to his environment – as it too will retain moisture but they stated it can be slightly coarse in nature (not rough) – but that if he burrows in the moss as their american toad does, it may help exfoliate some of the skin that remains after his shed.
Internet being brutal and non-sense – yes, again today I just saw my second internet advisment stating American Toads can be fed minnows and it also recommended pinkie mice – I am so thankful for this site, your expertise and That Pet Place – Id be lost without this resource and my friends health otherwise without it – well I just dont like to think about that.
Thank you
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Thanks for the kind words. Acidic water is not a good option…some toad populations have adapted, but in general best not to use anything over 7.5 pH. Many zoos use Reverse Osmosis systems. St. Louis had done some great amphibs work, just became first to breed hellbenders; you can rely on anything they tell you.
If water is un-chlorinated, chloramines would not likely be present. Used in NYC, but not nearly as common as chlorine elsewhere.
Deer Park Water was useful in past; not sure if their source has changed since.
Sphagnum moss would be a
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
I doubt you remember our previous correspondence about the American Toad I took in after he/she decided to hibernate in my outdoor planter. That was in October 2009, and the toad (we call him Little Toad) has been with us now for more more than two years. I incorporated all your suggestions in setting up his tank, etc., and it has been such a pleasure to watch him.
I have followed your exchanges with Kelly with interest, of course. Now I have a question regarding the latest ones about water. I don’t test the water we use for the toad’s soaking bowl and spraying, but I do use bottled spring water (from various sources, often the store brand, but also Poland Springs, Deer Park, etc. The current bottle is distributed by Key Foods, and the water comes from Fox Ledge Springs in Pennsylvania.) I don’t use purified water, which the labels of at least some bottlers say contains calcium chloride and sodium bicarbonate. (Aquafina purified water, I now see, does not contain this.) Is there a reason to be concerned that bottled spring water has chlorine in it? I thought that spring water did not contain chlorine, which is why I have been using it. I do use a dechlorinator in the tap water I use to wash and hydrate the sphagnum moss, but have stuck to bottled spring water for the toad’s soaking bowl and spray bottle. Thanks much for answering this question.
Best always,
Maru
about 4 months ago
Hello Mary,
Nice to hear from you again; I recall clearly…although, as with most things, I cannot believe it was over 2 years ago! Congrats on your success and thanks for the kind words.
Spring water, esp. from known companies, does not contain chlorine; we used Deer Park and Poland at the Bx Zoo; “purified” varies.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
Think I know what is wrong with Earl – thanks to your prior link to another subscriber regarding supplement/Vitamin A.
I have noticed that about once every week and half, Earls aim seems off – my book tells me that ‘bad aim’ could be linked to Vit A deficiency. He did this last night too – not every time, not really that often – but on occassion.
That – with the skin problems leads me to think Vit A def – and I just saw that my supplement has no preformed vit A, but only beta carotene – never thought about it before – makes sense to me that an animal that eats insects only most likely would not digest beta carotene (plant derived) well. – Duh on my part.
So I called the STL Zoo, they use Repashy – they use separate calcium/d3 and vitamin products – not one combined. Repashy has both preformed Vit A (retinol) along with some beta carotene for better all alround coverage and absorptions. STL Zoo stated that for VitD3 – the amounts they use varies by the Toad age – older animals getting the Repashy product with lower VitD3 content – and younger specimens getting the product with a higher Vit D3 ratio.
So with that – at my Toad Doc appt tonight – taking what I have been using, new products Reptivite and Repto Cal – along with data on products from Repashy and info from the staff at STL Zoo – to discuss how I hope, I pray I might be able to stop the symptoms I see in Earl now with hopefully a veterinarian recommended VitA supp alone treatment and to also help my other fellows by providing them more proper doses of VitA before they show any symptoms of being too low.
Thanks
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly
Thanks, sounds like you’re on the right track; please keep me posted re Repashy; I’d like to follow up on it, sounds promising.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
Below is a link on one vendor that sells Repashy – as on a couple of sights – they didnt sell all four of the available D3 stengths nor have data on them all for me to compare them to one another.
They have No VD, LoD, MeD and HyD – this site though, has all the ingrediants and levels for each of the 4 strenghts – and their recommended usage – including the HyD for animals that they state it may even be beneficial for if used during early stages of MBD.
http://www.pangeareptile.com/store/supercal.html
Definately an intersting product/company. I am also looking into their Supervite product – which the STL Zoo likes and uses also. It can be found under search on the same site above – this site also has a little more info regarding this product also, that the other site doesnt include – toghether with the 2 sites, I am getting the data I need on it!!!
http://www.alphaprobreeders.com/products/Repashy-SuperVite–.html
I will let you know how the visit went and what Dr. Wentzi advises!
Thanks again –
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank,
Last night, Earl ate a cricket – got it on the first try; tongue extended far.,
I saw the Dr. and he felt the bad aim or short tongue syndrome could be a calcium deficiency or, perhaps a tongue sprain – that he has seen in amphibians and chameleons on occassion.
He prefers the Rep Cal reptevite that I have been using and is comfortable that it contains only beta carotene and no preformed Vitamin A.
I am still thinking about the Repashy Supervite which does contained both preformed Vit A and beta carotene.
He thought it could be either dry skin or a possible fungul infection – he gave me some antibiodic – Baytril – 3.0ml to mix with a quart of water, and to mist him directly 2x a day for 7 to 10 days. Said if dry skin and not fungul, the antibiodic wouldnt hurt him.
I do remember your saying and also my reading in several articles that treament is extremely tricky – do you have any experience with toads and baytril?
I also found out there is a frog/toad breeder in my area who has been doing so for 20 plus years. (Dart frogs, horned frogs) – I have his info and am thinking about calling him also.
Thanks so very much,
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Thanks for the update. Baytril has long been a standard antibiotic for use with amphibians, especially where the exact nature of the problem is unknown. Used extensively in zoos and private practice.
As you can see, there are many uncertainties. Millions of dollars have been poured into battling the Chytrid fungus that has been decimating amphibs populations worldwide over the past decade or so, yet we are still far from understanding the nature of the problem.
I hope all goes well,
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.
about 4 months ago
Hi Frank
And thanks, so far on my review of the internet – only RAVE reviews regarding Baytril have been found – none negative (I wrote you prior to do that research – wasnt sure what I might find, just never know)
And – when speaking to the STL Zoo, I unfortunately learned the Chytrid fungus has been found in STL waters; wish it never existed; makes my heart sink.
Thank you again
Kelly
about 4 months ago
Hello Kelly,
Thanks; not to dampen the mood, but please keep in mind that there are all sorts of problems associated with any medication…look what happens in human medicine, where so much more is known. I’ve seen toads survive being locked within a concrete wall for 8 years, while others kept in multi-million dollar facilities fail to thrive…. But you’re doing all that can be done.
Chytrid is turning up everywhere, but we don’t really understand the implications. It may turn out to be like salmonella in herps or aspergillosis in birds – always present, but only problematical in certain circumstances. With amphibs declines, far more than just the fungus is likely involved – depressed immune systems due to other factors (pollution, acid rain, etc.), the loss of other micro-organisms, change in quality of food items, and so on. But each new bit of info helps.
Please let me know if you need any further information. Good luck, enjoy and please keep me posted.
Best regards, Frank Indiviglio.